A Restored Vintage Schieble Dayton Turner Hillside Roadster Comes to Market

Monday, October  24, 2018
Partly Sunny and Cold
7 Celsius  43 Fahrenheit

A Restored Vintage Schieble Dayton Turner

Hillside Roadster Comes to Market

Mr.Ron Michaud

Please click here to visit Ron Michaud's ebay store

I've been reviewing my previous post lately., and as of today, I have 1178 posts. I decided to return to Mr.Ron Michaud's previous posts, and remembered that he always had nice toys for sale. I even asked him where he always found such nice merchandise. When I went to visit Ron on ebay, he didn't disappoint me. He had nice toys for sale,and those that he had sold recently. I selected a nice toy that was sold recently - a Schieble Dayton Turner Hillside Roadster.

The reasons for having 3 names for the toy description is that the identity of the manufacturer is not identified. In the 1920's, Schieble, Dayton, and Turner all manufacture red similar toys. So without a 100% identity to this nice toy, the 3 manufacturers are used for the description.

Ron takes many photos, and does a fine job with the photography. There was one thing that I wanted to do to place the emphasis on the toy, and diminish the background.  That was, to remove the colour in the background. In this way, the colour of the toy and the toy itself would be more prominent than the grey-toned background. To do this, I "captured the toy", then revered the capture so that the background was not captured.From there, it was a simple matter of desaturating the background to remove the colour.

Description:

Schieble, Dayton, Turner Hillclimber Roadster

Beautiful restoration showing minor wear. Rear flywheel is working,sending the roadster roaring along the floor. Front headlights have been custom attached as seen in the pictures. Graceful lines from the long engine hood to the short rear deck mounted with a stylish spare tire.

From the days when a sporty car was huge.

Circa: 1920's

Length:  18"  454 mm

Below are the before and after photos.

The unaltered photo

 The photo with the background colour removed

The toy restoration is well-done. However, not everyone likes restorations of old toys, but prefer the toys "as found". Other people like their toys restored. THat's it with collectors - different tastes for different people.

Thanks for dropping by,

and as always,

Have a great part of the day or night,

Wherever you may be.

Stacey Bindman

toysearcher@gmail.com

Contest - An Old Toy Needs Identification

Tuesday, November 3, 2015
           Seasonally warm (15F/59C) 
              with partly cloudy skies

An Old Toy Need Identification

   One sure way to get me motivated to write is to have someone send me an inquiry. So when Mr. Bruce Jacobs wrote me to say he need assistance in identifying an old toy car, I immediately wrote back and asked for photos.  Bruce send me 4 nicely-photographed photos of the  toy,and so that's the post for today.

Hi Stacey,

I changed computers and lost your blog site until now!  I have always appreciated your museum quality photos and super commentary.

I came across what I feel is a VERY early toy racer, and need your help to learn more about it.  I have a number of Metalcraft, Dayton, Schieble, etc., but have never seen one that actually is large, wood vehicle wrapped in tin. I know I have seen this racer in my time, but just cant seem to find it when I need to.  I am still amazed that this car has as many original parts as it does.  There are no rubber tires on it, but it has the original wood rims, the front original moving axle, (back axle was replaced), original seat, seat backs, paint is amazing, wire mesh cooper grill, old license plate, original gas tank in back, and actual moveable wood steering wheel?  I didn't think so because of the wood color, but when you look at the underside of the steering wheel it is the exact color as the car, and the shaft underneath is also very old (amazing).  It is missing the spare tire that sits on the trunk lid.  If you or your readers can help me identify it that would great.  Dimensions are 16.5 inches long, 6 inches tall, and 7 inches wide from wheel to wheel.  From my experience, this seems to follow the very old Dayton and Clark autos with their paint and pinstripes, but the wood block undercarriage, firewall, steering wheel, rims, axles, and gas tank. It's a real treasure, and wanted to share!

I would imagine this is around 1895 to 1910, but not sure.

Thanks Stacey.

Have a super day.

Bruce

I have to confess about 1 thing in Bruce's introduction. Except for the first 40 posts, all photography is taken by the people companies, or museums that I write about. What I do is simply isolate the toy from the background and place it on white. I try to select quality photography, and what I've noticed since the digital camera, the tablet, and the cell phone have advanced in quality and capability, so has the higher level of photography.

Bruce knows his toys! When Bruce mentioned Schieble and Dayton (as in Hillclimber), I knew that Bruce was a toy aficionado (someone who has a high interest in something, such as a hobby).

Dimensions

Length x Width x Height

16.5"  x  7"  x  6"

419.1 mm x 177.8 mm x 152.4 mm

When I first saw Bruce's photos, I initially thought hand-made, . However, for sure this is not  hand-made! It's quite sophisticated in features (the gas tank, the front grill, the bevelled wheels, the cotter pin  at the end of the steering column, and so forth.

Below you get a good view of the bevelled wheels. I wonder if there where rubber tires on them?

As well, you can see the underside of the side steps, one for the driver, and one for the passenger. As well, the unique steering wheels column is integrated into the underside frame of the car.

The yellow line (pinstripe) on the blue background was made by a toy manufacturer because of the fine quality. I also like the front grille.

 The overall car toy resembles early car racers from the 20th century, with it's side steps, gas tank in the back, and the front large-sized and flat grille mesh.

Now all we need is to have a reader  find us an identification to Bruce's fine toy that he most kindly shared with us, and took the time to photograph.So I'd like to ask all readers if they might help me out and try to find an identity to this fine toy. 

 To make the search all the more interesting, I'd like to offer 2 toy books. One for the person who finds the identity to the toy, and one person who corroborates that the first identifier of the toy was right. I'm not going to highlight this last paragraph too much, but I'm going to be quite excited if I can get just a few people to help us out.

All participants to the "mini-contest" will have to provide  addresses to the photos (copyright infringement) or their owwn photos if they have one of these toys, with some written narrative to prove the toy identity. I will ask for permission to the 2 winners.

As for Bruce, I hope he'll not mind if I don't offer him a book. But a high thank you to Bruce for helping me with my blog and for keeping me interested in writing. Otherwise, I'd have to deplete my collection to go back in time and offer all the people who have helped me by sending ion their toys for identification. And one final note - this is not a contest so I hope Google will allow my small offer without any rule or legal  "red tape".

Thanks for dropping by to my blog,

and as always,

have a great part of the day or night, wherever you may be,

Stacey

toysearcher@gmail.com

A Most Beautiful Hill Climber Toy Truck

Monday, May 5, 2014 
   (Cinquo de Mayo)
(Still another day of cloud and rain!)

A Most Beautiful Hill Climber

Toy Truck

   Often, I'll just browse around on the Net to see what there might be for  a future post. Yesterday, I already had  processed 2 sets of photographs for 2 posts later in the week. However the weather was not co-operating, and so I decided to stay inside. I ventured to ebay and came across a very old hill climber up for sale. Upon further investigation, it was being sold by Randys Toy Shop. 

    I've been fortunate to be able to use Randy's fine photographs and knowledge to blog with. 

Randy Ibey not only sells toys, but he repairs them as well. You can find further information at his own website.

Please click here to visit Randy's fine ebay store

Please click here to visit Randy's excellent website

  For those who don'y know, a friction wheel (for a toy) is a mechanism that builds up power as an exterior wheel is moved forward on a hard surface. The more times you move the wheel,the more energy accumulates. As you release the toy finally on the ground, the stored energy will transfer to the wheels, and the toy will move forward. 

  I've written about these toys before, but today's truck presentation is quite nice, and photographed beautifully with all different angles to present it to the viewer or potential buyer. This toy could have been made by Dayton, Cook, or the Schieble company. As a mechanical movement, you don;t see too many of these types of movements. The three companies made used this movement in the 1920's. 

Inside that semi-circular metal case is the flywheel. It's covered so dirt would not enter the gearing mechanism.

This is a nice photo. A low camera angle, combined with a wide-angle lens adds strength to the toy. 

Bu having to look up to the toy, it becomes "bigger".

The driver is a replacement, but certainly fits in well with the time that the toy would have been seen on the streets. The year was 1921, which coincidently was the year (May 29, 1921) that my mother was born.

Thanks for visiting,

and as always, 

have a great part of the day or night, 

wherever you may be.

Stacey

toysearcher@gmail.com

Toys as They Looked Years Ago

November 30, 2013

Toys as They Looked Years Ago

   Most of the toy catalogues from olden times (pre-1940) are usually in black and white.   The illustrations or photographs also come with written descriptions that include the sizes and colours that the toys come in. But it's always nice to actually a toy, or to see how it appeared so many years ago. When I first started buying and selling toys, I'd occasionally but  a "junker" for a relatively low price (or so I thought), and restore it. Of course, I was no match for the people who had the experience. I purchased models paints and sprays, sandpaper, a Dremel high speed machine, and off I went.  I also contacted toy parts sellers on e-Bay and replaced missing parts. MOst of the time, I was very please with the results,and on some rare occasions, I wasn't. You need to read a lot, and learn the finer techniques and skills to finish a toy properly.

  So today's post is about a son and his father who has spent a fair amount of time perhaps as a hobby to return toys to their original heyday and as they might have looked when they rolled off the toy assembly line.  I found a nice Schieble hillclimber  on ebay that was beautifully restored, and looked at more items from this person. The other listing were also nicely restored. The descriptions were written by Tom and Dessa Ossman.  Many of the toys were restored by Tom's father. I also think some of the toys are were restored by Tom himself. 

  "In the 1960s and 70s my father had an elaborate hobby of restoring old toys.  His primary love was airplanes.  These professionally restored toys have been displayed behind glass or stored in preservation boxes since the 1970s.  I absolutely guarantee them to be restored originals from the 30s and 40s and not reproductions.  Today I try to carry on the tradition of toy restoration with a focus on tin plate antique toy trains.  The need to conserve on space forces me to part with some of these treasures."

Please click here to see Tom Ossman's fine items for sale

I think that the battery-operation was redesigned. I like the brass-coloured spring and screw mechanism that adjusts the pressure on the batteries.That ensures that the batteries will remain firmly in position to supply a nice source of illumination to the headlights.

One of my favourite toys is above - the "Art Deco" style coupe shown in red and blue. If you read Tom's description of some of the listings, you'll read that he applies many coats of paint and finish to get that smooth and shiny lustre to the toys. The shiny metal parts have been highly-polished, and the gas cap is wood (As originally found on these toys).  Tom's father certainly knew what he was doing, and Tom today has acquired the great talent of his father!

It's great to see these toys continue to live on for the next generation of collectors and children alike - and not necessarily in that order.

For all my American readers, I hope you survived Thanksgiving Friday. For my Canadian readers,  

some of you were probably caught up in the "migration" of this event that had now moved north.Of course, I'd bet that the sale is also on for the weekend!

And don't eat too much turkey leftovers!

Thanks for visiting, 

and have a great part of the day or night,

wherever you may be.

Stacey 

toysearcher@gmail.com